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Sven Roeder 7:21 Thu Oct 20
1st Test Bangladesh v England at Chittagong

Cook Duckett Root Ballance Ali Stokes Bairstow Woakes Rashid Batty Broad

England win the toss and BAT

21/2
New England Test appearance record holder Alistair COOK
b Shakib 4
Test debutant Ben DUCKETT
b Mehedi 14

VirginiaHam 5:57 Tue Oct 25
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Dhaka is apparently unlikely to turn as much.

Sven Roeder 3:10 Tue Oct 25
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Presuming the pitch is similar ... Ansari for Woakes & Hameed for Ballance
Duckett looks more like a 4 or 5 in Tests than an opener.

VirginiaHam 2:46 Tue Oct 25
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That last test was like cricket backwards, or at least in England's case.

More help for the spinners with the new ball, and Cook went to Broad and Stokes as the ball got older and started to reverse.

Starting with Broad and Stokes was a very decent move on day 5. It removed the threat of some ugly wipes bringing boundaries, added in the fear factor and the ball reversed nicely. The runs were dried up, and the Bungles had to rely on nicks and nudges to make progress.

The talk is Ansari for Rashid.......might bring a little more control without weakening the batting. Batty didn't look at all excited by playing test cricket again.

Sven Roeder 1:57 Tue Oct 25
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Don't think lack of results is a major problem in Test cricket at the moment.
Only 3 of England's last 24 Tests have been drawn.
Still think the ideal pitch has some life for the fast bowlers early, allows good batsmen to score quickly and begins to wear on days 4 & 5 so that the spinners come in.
A pitch where Gareth Batty opens the bowling isn't quite what the game needs for mine.

Eerie Descent 1:51 Tue Oct 25
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And you want to stop that dead in it's tracks?

Move with the times, Granddad.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:46 Tue Oct 25
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Not too many draws nowadays. ODI techniques and attitudes have seen to that.

Googling 'percentage draws test cricket' throws up some tremendously boring blogs and even academic papers and I don't recommend reading them. I didn't but I got these raw facts from a table at the top of one of them:

1949-79 41%
1980-99 40%
2000-13 25%

Eerie Descent 1:26 Tue Oct 25
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Surely the way to keep Test Cricket top of the tree is to favour bowlers, thus giving a better chance of a positive result?

VirginiaHam 12:55 Tue Oct 25
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btw, the game I was referring to was between Surrey and Somerset at Taunton in 1983. Richards scored a big hundred in the first innings and a rapid 80 odd in the second. One shot was hit back at Dave Thomas so hard it clipped his ear in his follow through on the way to the boundary.

That was one very flat pitch. The ball didn't swing or seam for three days.

VirginiaHam 12:51 Tue Oct 25
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Surface,

None needed. I took the full bunger in the spirit it was intended. Piss takes are very welcome.

Better than being called a cunt.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:56 Tue Oct 25
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VH

In dispatching Marston's full-bunger over the stand at Cow Corner I have unfairly traduced you. Honest county toilers are the heart and soul of the game. My apologies.

VirginiaHam 9:00 Mon Oct 24
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Surface and Marston,

Have you any idea what it's like to spend yer day flogging yer guts out on a wicket, devoid of grass, no seam on the ball, cloudless skies, staring at one of the world's best batsman (if not the best)?

You bang the ball into the pitch, and if such batting God chooses not to smack you to the boundary and leaves it instead (because it's too boring) if yer lucky the ball gets to the keeper before it bounces.

Upon such wonderful dreams we bowlers have to find an escape route, and that is DRS. That's how desperate we are for the vaguest hint of sanctuary.

I suppose, from time to time, we remember how lucky we are to be paid to play sport, but also remember that we could be paid, while injured, (quite a lot) to be in a bar drinking instead.

Dr Matt 8:36 Mon Oct 24
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Easy win.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:26 Mon Oct 24
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Marston Hammer 5:27 Mon Oct 24

To be fair, his record would suggest he didn't play it that well in the grand scheme of things.

swt

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:24 Mon Oct 24
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VirginiaHam 5:17 Mon Oct 24

'I agree; why not?'

Because you were a bowler. The whole history of the game, rightly or wrongly, gave the benefit of any possible doubt to the batsman. This may seem unfair, but is a fact, based, I believe, on the original reason for having LBW - so that the batsmen in the underarm days of the game should not prevent the bowler from bowling him out by taking a guard directly in front of the stumps.

I understand that the game has moved on from the days of curly bats, but the principal that a batter should be plumb to be given has endured and the DRS regulations were framed to reflect that and to ensure that five day tests are not finished by tea-time on the second day.

El Scorchio 6:18 Mon Oct 24
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If he's proven wrong then I'd rather delays and accurate decisions.

Westside 5:44 Mon Oct 24
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" leads to endless breaks in play in a game"

Hardly "endless" when teams are only allowed two un successful reviews per 80 overs.

And we are only talking about decisions that have been reviewed, having a different interpretation, i.e. hitting any part of the stumps on an lbw shout, is out, no umpire's call.

The DRS process, currently seems to be pretty quick to me for lbw decisions.

Marston Hammer 5:27 Mon Oct 24
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VirginiaHam 5:17 Mon Oct 24

You've obviously never played the game
swt

VirginiaHam 5:17 Mon Oct 24
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Surface,

Worth listening to the thoughts of Kumar Sangakarra, Sri Lankan batting legend, on DRS.

If the ball is hitting the stumps, it should be out. If not, bowlers are effectively bowling at two stumps.

I agree; why not?

Sven Roeder 5:16 Mon Oct 24
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Cant recall how long DRS has been active but this Test is the first I can recall an umpire being singled out as having had a bit of a shocker .... 16 decisions reviewed from Mr Dharmasena and 8 overturned.
Usually people accept how hard decsions often are and there isn't any criticism of umpires over 'mistakes'. Especially on turning pitches.
In fact I think generally people are impressed at how many close ones they get right,

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:15 Mon Oct 24
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And if you think an LBW call that DRS shows to be marginal is a 'wrong call' by the umpire you overestimate the technology and have never played the game. That's why the ex-professional player commentators on Sky scrupulously say, ''good call by the umpire, there' when they have given 'not out' a ball that DRS shows to be hitting the very edge of the stump.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:10 Mon Oct 24
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El Scorchio 4:17 Mon Oct 24

Because it undermines the authority of the umpire and leads to endless breaks in play in a game that can be painfully slow at the best of times.

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